Welcome aboard!
I'm glad you took the time out to prove for yourself that what the WTBS said and their interpretation of certain scriptures was just plain wrong!
Kool Jo
i have been out 3 years.
i was baptized, never df'd.
ignored the 2 or 3 phone calls from the elders, and then they left me alone.
Welcome aboard!
I'm glad you took the time out to prove for yourself that what the WTBS said and their interpretation of certain scriptures was just plain wrong!
Kool Jo
as an active witness atm i speak reguarly with friends and family who are also active.
it seems however that there are some things that people are comfortable discussing such as beards (whats the problem) and birthdays (everyone would if they could) and, if you are with close friends, things like confusion over the generations, pressure of keeping all the balls juggled, harshness of rules around da/df ones along with long lapsed family and to some extent blood.. my guess is that there are many more who may be in a similar state of mind to me and wondering if it really is all worth it.
it makes me wonder about how many with express themselves more if they could?
There are many folks who have doubts about the WTBS, it's the guilt of questioning the the FDS and loosing family that keep many folks in...there are also those who struggling financially/emotionally so as not to seem "spiritually weak" to others...
Kool Jo
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when i started to fade it was pretty easy for me.
@OTWO: I understand what you mean by being a JW growing up wasn't an option....really sorry to hear about the suicide attempt!
@RBIH: Yes, I do have friends outside the WTBS...you see, because I always had my doubts (I still went thru the motions) I made friends outside the WTBS....yes I went to college ect...it was indeed a eye opener even when I was younger to know that "wordly" people would be some of the most sincere & genuine persons out there...as a matter of fact, one of my closest friends is an agnostic...we just don't chat about doctrines, ect...
Peace
Kool Jo
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when i started to fade it was pretty easy for me.
This is my current situation:
I'm someone you'd consider to be "still-in"...but a few things have changed...
1. Over the past few months, I haven't done actual service, but still do hand in a FS report so as not to do anything drastic.
2. I have recently moved away from my parents (hard-core JW's) and from my "home" congregation....unfortunately, my parents know folks in every congregation in the universe, I don't go to Thursday meetings though...
3. In the new Khall that I'm suppose to be with, I haven't given anyone my number and go home right after the Watchtower study whenever I feel like going...Only been there twice.
4. I should've been removed as an MS because my new job does require traveling to various cities for extended periods and don't want the publisher card to be all over the place, so I've been in contact, back and forth, wanting them to just say that "Bro Kool Jo is no longer an MS blah blah blah"...but it hasn't happened yet...so at the end of every month, I text some hours & magazines placement to the "home congregation"...and just to think last week saturday I should've been in FS, but the folks at my job had a barbeque...so of course I went and had a great time with my new co-workers at the park!!!
It really sucks that this cult plays on your mind especially when family is involved....but my fade is coming along...so glad I moved away from home...but at the same time saddened that the WTBS is the real reason I can't live a normal life with my parents without them feeling guilty if their 'perfect' JW kid left the "truth".
Looking forward to the other stories to be posted.
Peace
Kool Jo
Welcome aboard! I'm glad you're much happier now!
Kool Jo
i've noticed when i exercise regularly i feel thin, regardless of my weight.
this led me to think about how behavior, thoughts and feelings are tied together.
so for those of you still in what activities or thoughts make you feel like a witness?
This is an interesting question...
I'm "still-in" physically although some things are coming in place where my interaction with JW's will be minimized:
- Like Emery, I'm skeptical of most politicians.
- I realized that you have good and bad traits in everyone..."worldly" or not.
- Spirituality is much more important than religous affiliation.
- Never could understand why the WTBS couldn't have engaged in activities to help the less fortunate.
- I don't feel like I missed anything by not celebrating birthdays ect...
...there are more stuff, but I'm just in from work, so the brain is shutting down
Kool Jo
although i haven't been a witness for over 20 years, it has taken me that long to finally feel brave enough to join another church (aka christendom) and begin researching my past beliefs.
all this research has opened a few old wounds, but mostly liberated me from a lot of quilt.
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Welcome aboard!
Kool Jo
ive been lurking for quite sometime and now feel the need to come and noob it up.
it's taken a lot to bring me to read anything critical of the wts.
i used to glance at these apostate sites and shutter in fear because of the obvious demonic venom that can be found :) i am still an active witness and have been in this struggle to stay both in and be removed mentally from this organization.
Welcome aboard!!! Glad you've come to the realization of the WTBS is all about.
Kool Jo
of course everyone knows about the news of the candace conti child abuse case which has gone viral , ( one would have to live in a cave, under a rock, or another planet not to know about it ).
that being said - it may very well be that those jehovah's witnesses who do not use the internet, or read newspapers, or in simple english are neanderthal's, still living in the 19th century or before , out of fear of negative reprisal from wt authorities may have not even heard about this case because they are in the habit of not watching the news or using the internet.. so- with those particular type of people in mind my son flipper jr. & myself decided to print up about 20 copies of the candace conti child abuse lawsuit from the england daily mail issue , here's the link : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160605/candance-conti-molested-jehovahs-witnesses-member-age-nine-wins-28milion.html?ito=feeds-newsxml .. so what we did is since we are doing some out of town jobs in several counties we figured we'd leave these child abuse news releases under jw car windshields at kingdom halls while they are out in field service.
we left about 15 so far at 3 different kingdom halls under car windshields .
Good stuff Flipper!
Peace
Kool Jo
so as you may know, my parents are hardcore jw's...however, something they said to me a couple nights ago got me thinking and wondering if my parents could be awakened.... the c/o who was in town and in one of his talks, related an example of when he visited another congregation.
he stated that he asked a sister why her husband wasn't at meeting with her....the sister stated that her husband was at work...the c/o's reply..."that's a horrible excuse"!?!?!?!.
my parents found the c/o's comment disturbing...and when my parents brought up the conversation, i was surprised they said the c/o must have lost his mind...my parents stated nobody knows when the system is going to end so we still need to work and a man has the biblical obligation to cater to his family.
So I finally told my parents about the Condi child molestation case...and to my surprise they were unaware even though they only watch news be ause the "end is near"....
Initially they said it was very sad, then they said that "Jeh will work things out"...I can't beleive it...I'm sure those who are still "in" because of parents/family can relate to this...it's as if the cult have made us lack empathy towards such things...especially if it puts the WTBS in a bad light...
I thought for a moment their could be a glimmer of hope for my parents...but I guess not
Kool Jo